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Post by Washington Imperials GM on Jan 10, 2010 21:52:22 GMT -5
A simple majority is needed to pass this addendum.
Durring the practice Squad resigning period when you sign a practice squad player to your active roster you may sign them to any contract length you want up to a five year contract.
again you may debate this and retract your vote if nessessary.
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Post by Washington Imperials GM on Jan 10, 2010 21:53:44 GMT -5
Charles and I intended this from the start but somehow we ovwerlooked writing it. This is why it is a simple majority vote.
it is good bwecause it gives some extra flexibility with your roster.
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Post by Waddling Mummies GM on Jan 12, 2010 14:07:40 GMT -5
i know 5 people have already voted but i just wanted to make it clear that this is during the PS resigning during the offseason only not during season. during season you still can only sign them to your active roster for a 1 year deal
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Post by Scottish Claymores GM on Jan 12, 2010 17:26:22 GMT -5
In my opinion the PS having free cuts is a huge benefit and part of the privelidge of free PS moves and stashing players is that you get signing rights. But getting 5 year signing rights at £1 will totally distort things for the large number of breakout players each year.
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Post by Washington Imperials GM on Jan 12, 2010 22:55:29 GMT -5
not all 5 players on a PS will be signed to the active roster. I doubt anyone is that good. and iff so there are still bust risks if you sign them to a long term contract. That and your active roster is still limited by a 35 man roster size with 18 starters and your salary cap. (I am thinking buying out players with the salary cap)
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Post by Waddling Mummies GM on Jan 13, 2010 0:31:23 GMT -5
the thing with this one is if a player is having a breakout year you have to decide to bring him up right then for just a 1 year contract then you have the option to resign him at the end for additional money or wait til the offseason and sign him to the active roster to a long term contract at his PS salary.
ex. (i thought this rule was in place.) with miles austin i could have signed him to my active roster during the season and then re-signed him to a 3 year deal but at additional cost. but i decided to wait til the off season so i can sign him to a long term contract at $1.
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Post by AVERAGE HERO'S GM on Jan 13, 2010 7:47:08 GMT -5
I'm in favor of this rule if we have a fixed cap that doesn't keep moving and I'm against it if we are moving the cap. So I don't know which way to vote since I don't know what's happening with the salary cap rule change.
The Miles Austin example is a perfect reason why. There is no reason to move the salary cap if managers can get players signed from the practice squad at bargin prices, which will make it cheaper to operate teams over time.
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Post by Washington Imperials GM on Jan 13, 2010 12:28:28 GMT -5
my suggestion is wait until the end to vote and make a decision then the other thing you can do it vote now and retract your vote later. TThese polls were set up so that you can retract votes if you chnage your mind.
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Post by Washington Imperials GM on Jan 13, 2010 13:30:27 GMT -5
This poll has exceeded the majority vote needed to pass now it is time to do some fast talking to convince people that your was is correct if you don't want the rule change.
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Post by Washington Imperials GM on Jan 15, 2010 13:18:07 GMT -5
Does any of the no voters wish to try and convice the yes voters to change thier minds? If so please vote here.
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Post by Scottish Claymores GM on Jan 16, 2010 11:34:40 GMT -5
To clarify, when we say "sign them for up to 5 years" does that mean: at the same salary rate they're already on, or at the '+x' depending on contract length? Also does it count as using the contracts available in the offseason resigning of FAs?
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Post by Waddling Mummies GM on Jan 16, 2010 16:20:39 GMT -5
at the salary they have for your PS and it does not count as your contracts. PS signing will take place before the active roster resigning period.
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Post by Scottish Claymores GM on Jan 17, 2010 6:20:54 GMT -5
I think it's going to have too big an impact on league competitiveness being able to sign them at their PS salary. A few players on long-term contracts at $1 will give those teams a lot of "surplus cash" to get the best FAs too.
The thing is, so many players become fantasy worthy from 'nowhere' that when they're picked up on PS at $1 it very quickly becomes an under-valuation of their talents. Hence my main points for consideration:
1) Let them be signed to multi-year active-roster deals. But for PS players they should have an unlimited number of contracts available, something along the lines of regular resigning structure:
5 years @ current salary + $3 4 years @ current salary + $3 3 years @ current salary + $2 2 years @ current salary + $2 1 year @ current salary + $1
2) Let them be signed to multi-year active-roster deals. BUT to give some simulation of market value (whilst also giving a "home town discount" or "development discount advantage") maybe the signings from PS to active roster should be announced, THEN other owners have the chance to match the contract years at the offered salary + $2. THEN the owners can update their own offer. Example:
I sign Mr X from PS, 2 years at $1 (his PS salary) Other owner likes Mr X and has to bid 2 years at a minimum of $3, so assume they bid $3 I want Mr X, so I can now bid 2 years at $2 (because in order to beat me the other owner has to offer salary +2 = $4).
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Post by AVERAGE HERO'S GM on Jan 17, 2010 8:16:29 GMT -5
I pretty much have the same issue of the bargin bottom contracts with the salary cap increasing. I sign a guy from my pratcie squad for 5 years at $1. In the future, I resign him again for a total of $5 for another 5 year. Basically, only paying $6 for 10 years of service. If it's tight to resign your players, that's all the better for the league. If you figure that every team is going to be adding like 3-5 players at $1 for 5 years every year, then you really should be ok if your even half decent at this.
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Post by Waddling Mummies GM on Jan 17, 2010 12:12:13 GMT -5
i will make a response to theese when i get back and sober up later today
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