Post by AVERAGE HERO'S GM on Jan 14, 2010 15:29:06 GMT -5
I was wondering about players with expired contracts at the end of the year.
These players don't count against your cap, don't count against your roster spots, and are waiting to maybe get resigned or maybe be free agents. Since the player is essentially in free agency limbo and the team has no real rights to the player, should they be able to trade them? This seems like a huge loop hole. Teams can play out a contract and then trade the player after it expires? This allows teams to profit from trading a player that they have no contract with and no intent to even resign the player. Essentially bettering their team by losing nothing and investing nothing. I think teams should be required to resign these players before trading them, so teams at least have to account for them with a contract, roster spot, and salary cap. Seems like a strange thing that there is no rule for or against.
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Players without contracts are tradeable. unlike the NFL in free agency where they player chooses where they go. There is no set of rules that simulates a player choosing which team they want to sign with. While a lot of things parallell the NFL and what happens in this league it is not our intent to simulate the NFL. his is one of the places we differ.
There are, however, precedent where players in the NFL did not have a contract and were traded. John Elway, Phillip Rivers, Eli Manning were all drafted rookies without contracts that were traded. Champ Bailey and Joey Galloway both were franchised players who were traded. Though they had signed thier franchise tender a contract was worked out with the new team.
Just like our players have no choice what team singns them when they hit free agency they have no rights to declare free agency or weather or not they are resigned or traded to another team.
Trading uncontracted players also has the advantage that all players on an active roster are available for trades year round Teams do not need to wait for a resigning period to trade them. If you wait for a contract your trade partner may change his/her mind. It also allows us to resign players later in the year as opposed to January assuring us that 1) we have a little something to do year round and 2) more information on the players team situation in the 2010 season and not the playoffs of 2009 to make resigning decisions.
A final reason for not resigning up to that point (March) is it is a lot easier to keep track of people resignings to help assure everyone does it correctly and does not make a mistake assigning too many contracts. As I have proven everyone is fallable.
It is actually a win-win situation for both sides of the trading party. The palyer trading the rights to a player does receive compensation for a player he may or may not intend to resign. while the player receiving the rights to the unsigned player assures himself the player at a price he is willing to pay.
Trading is perceived value. if there is no perceived value weather a player has a contract or not he will not be tradeable.
We traded the rights to players last offseason before all players were signed to thir original contracts. There were no issues then and just one objection to it now. I do not see it as something that needs to be fixed.
Finally a listing of what you may trade has been listed at the bottom of the following thread . it also specificly nemtions what you may not trade.
dynastyffl.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=leaguerules&action=display&thread=30
for those who do not wish to click the link
What you may trade
You may trade players, draft picks, future draft picks, and salary cap cash. You may not trade contracts.
These players don't count against your cap, don't count against your roster spots, and are waiting to maybe get resigned or maybe be free agents. Since the player is essentially in free agency limbo and the team has no real rights to the player, should they be able to trade them? This seems like a huge loop hole. Teams can play out a contract and then trade the player after it expires? This allows teams to profit from trading a player that they have no contract with and no intent to even resign the player. Essentially bettering their team by losing nothing and investing nothing. I think teams should be required to resign these players before trading them, so teams at least have to account for them with a contract, roster spot, and salary cap. Seems like a strange thing that there is no rule for or against.
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Players without contracts are tradeable. unlike the NFL in free agency where they player chooses where they go. There is no set of rules that simulates a player choosing which team they want to sign with. While a lot of things parallell the NFL and what happens in this league it is not our intent to simulate the NFL. his is one of the places we differ.
There are, however, precedent where players in the NFL did not have a contract and were traded. John Elway, Phillip Rivers, Eli Manning were all drafted rookies without contracts that were traded. Champ Bailey and Joey Galloway both were franchised players who were traded. Though they had signed thier franchise tender a contract was worked out with the new team.
Just like our players have no choice what team singns them when they hit free agency they have no rights to declare free agency or weather or not they are resigned or traded to another team.
Trading uncontracted players also has the advantage that all players on an active roster are available for trades year round Teams do not need to wait for a resigning period to trade them. If you wait for a contract your trade partner may change his/her mind. It also allows us to resign players later in the year as opposed to January assuring us that 1) we have a little something to do year round and 2) more information on the players team situation in the 2010 season and not the playoffs of 2009 to make resigning decisions.
A final reason for not resigning up to that point (March) is it is a lot easier to keep track of people resignings to help assure everyone does it correctly and does not make a mistake assigning too many contracts. As I have proven everyone is fallable.
It is actually a win-win situation for both sides of the trading party. The palyer trading the rights to a player does receive compensation for a player he may or may not intend to resign. while the player receiving the rights to the unsigned player assures himself the player at a price he is willing to pay.
Trading is perceived value. if there is no perceived value weather a player has a contract or not he will not be tradeable.
We traded the rights to players last offseason before all players were signed to thir original contracts. There were no issues then and just one objection to it now. I do not see it as something that needs to be fixed.
Finally a listing of what you may trade has been listed at the bottom of the following thread . it also specificly nemtions what you may not trade.
dynastyffl.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=leaguerules&action=display&thread=30
for those who do not wish to click the link
What you may trade
You may trade players, draft picks, future draft picks, and salary cap cash. You may not trade contracts.